Are Double Lung Shots Overpowered?

[trulight]

Real life is hard to simulate in a game, I think it works just fine, as there are exceptions. I've also had double lungs or even single lungs stop a deer and they just don't run. Sit bleed out and fall.

Graphic But Accurate of what can happen: Pretty sure this is a heart shot, or a major arterial cut. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jawICoAejiQ

[Modifly1]

Fair enough. Wasn't instant knockdown but he did stop in his tracks. Also in response to not needing 'that much gun' I'm assuming we're talking about the .340 Weatherby here since the Kar98 is quite comparable to 30-06 except for size and I hear it's quite the superb hunting rifle. As for the .340 I'm glad to have a tad too much power than not enough. Plus the .340 has much better long range ability. I've one shotted elk in this game from about 250m+ no trouble. The kar I'm still figuring out for that range since I've never had a successful single shot kill with the kar greater than about 150m on a good day.

[OldMtnMan]

Yes, the .340 is good at long range. I bought it in game because I love the real Weatherby guns.

I shot a 380 elk across a lake at 304 m. Double lung and a knock down. I was impressed with it's power and used it for bison after that.

[Bort]

When a lung is hit by an arrow or bullet, or anything for that matter that punctures it, the lung immediately collapses.
Have you ever experienced even one collapsed lung? It's not only scary as hell because you can't breathe it doesn't tickle.
It is the worst pain in the world, ever.

I've had both of my lungs partially collapse simultaneously (lower respiratory), I would rather be pummeled by several people with steel baseball bats (being swung over their heads with their feet leaving the ground when they hit me) than feel that amount of pain ever again.

Both lungs get punctured and collapse/implode immediately? That's nearly instant death for sure.
It's not overpowered at all it makes complete sense that they drop instantly when we land a double lung shot.
Even if they don't die right away they drop from the pain and extreme fear of suddenly not being able to breathe for the short time they have left to think before suffocating causes their death from their heart stopping and then their brain stops functioning because there's no blood flow.

I apologize if that's a bit graphic for someone but that's the reality of what happens when both lungs are punctured.

[OldMtnMan]

Sorry, but a good solid double lung shot will not always drop a deer on the spot. More probably run 50 yds than drop. Pain won't drop it. The double lung is still the best, safest shot but if you want 100% drops you better hit the spine.

Any hunter should know this.

[Modifly1]

Gotta agree with OldMtnMan on this one. I've seen a lot of deer footage and I find it rare for double lung shots to drop an animal instantly even if it is quick.

[trulight]

Sorry, but a good solid double lung shot will not always drop a deer on the spot. More probably run 50 yds than drop. Pain won't drop it. The double lung is still the best, safest shot but if you want 100% drops you better hit the spine.

Any hunter should know this.

You are correct on that, as in "not always" sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't in real life. I've had deer, and large game animals do some, quite frankly, amazing things. Had an elk I double lunged with a .308, it ran for 100 yards just on adrenaline alone. I've had others drop right there. Similarly, i've seen a white tail (not shot by me) With no front legs left, and massive shoulder damage go 50 to 100 yards running on just it's back legs in a stand up position. I've actually seen a black bear with a headshot not drop immediately, it managed to take about 6 running bounds.

I would LOVE to see those variances of surprise / or how the heck is that even possible come to the game, but then you'd have the purists saying they don't do that in real life, when in actuality they do.

Me personally on shot placement in real life will always go where the top of the neck meets the top of the body if they are quartering towards me or away from me. If they are broadside double lung every time, if they are going completely away i won't take the shot until i get a quartering shot. If they are coming right at me, center chest every time. But ultimately broadside is best every time, but doesn't always present itself. Neck shots......I dunno how I feel about those, I know a lot of the meat hunters do them, and are very effective with them.

The problem is, here in michigan, you get maybe once or twice in a lifetime to hunt elk, it's a lottery drawing, so although a quartering shot may not be optimal, it might be the only shot in your life you get, so you can't just not take it.

[Bort]

All animals including us will do absolutely everything we can to survive when something catastrophic happens suddenly. Skinny people have lifted cars that fell off a jack and things like that. If they can run they will.

[OldMtnMan]

I always took double lung shots. It's a safe shot that always ended in death for me. Never lost an animal with a hole in both lungs. The reason they can run is the double lung shot will cut off the air supply to the body. However, the muscles still contain a supply of oxygen. They can still run until the oxygen in the muscles is depleted. A little bit of tracking was always part of the hunt and never bothered me.

I always figured those who were obcessed about getting a knock down were lousy trackers.

[ogruls]

I always took double lung shots. It's a safe shot that always ended in death for me. Never lost an animal with a hole in both lungs. The reason they can run is the double lung shot will cut off the air supply to the body. However, the muscles still contain a supply of oxygen. They can still run until the oxygen in the muscles is depleted. A little bit of tracking was always part of the hunt and never bothered me.

I always figured those who were obcessed about getting a knock down were lousy trackers.

Same as me always went for the "boiler room". When they do run wasn't far & was open ground.