Weapons ranked on Power?

[trulight]

Carbon and Composite both relate to the material used in the stock, not the barrel. Carbon meaning Carbon fibre and composite meaning any other plastic or fibre glass mixture. The Ammo is the same for all rifle skins of the same caliber and there is only one power rating for the ammo. So it is unlikely that one rifle skin would perform any better than any other version..

Well maybe here but as I said, when you attach "carbon" to a weapon, you are usually referring to the rifle barrel and not the color of the stock. Carbon is not a color.

I see what your getting at with that statement, however in theHunter it's always been reference to the skin of the weapon, not design. And carbon fiber can be referring to material of the gun in general, they make everything out of carbon fiber my friend.

https://www.stockysstocks.com/stocks-by ... tocks.html

All carbon fiber stocks.

[Alphamale1956]

Carbon and Composite both relate to the material used in the stock, not the barrel. Carbon meaning Carbon fibre and composite meaning any other plastic or fibre glass mixture. The Ammo is the same for all rifle skins of the same caliber and there is only one power rating for the ammo. So it is unlikely that one rifle skin would perform any better than any other version..

Well maybe here but as I said, when you attach "carbon" to a weapon, you are usually referring to the rifle barrel and not the color of the stock. Carbon is not a color.

I see what your getting at with that statement, however in theHunter it's always been reference to the skin of the weapon, not design. And carbon fiber can be referring to material of the gun in general, they make everything out of carbon fiber my friend.

https://www.stockysstocks.com/stocks-by ... tocks.html

All carbon fiber stocks.

Ok, well then let me ask you this. Let's say I take a basic Blue Marble .22 Plinkington and I run the harvest count to 1000. I get 1000 score points. Correct? Now, let's say I switch to the "White" version of the .22 rifle and I make a harvest with it. Do I get score points or not?

[trulight]

Well maybe here but as I said, when you attach "carbon" to a weapon, you are usually referring to the rifle barrel and not the color of the stock. Carbon is not a color.

I see what your getting at with that statement, however in theHunter it's always been reference to the skin of the weapon, not design. And carbon fiber can be referring to material of the gun in general, they make everything out of carbon fiber my friend.

https://www.stockysstocks.com/stocks-by ... tocks.html

All carbon fiber stocks.

Ok, well then let me ask you this. Let's say I take a basic Blue Marble .22 Plinkington and I run the harvest count to 1000. I get 1000 score points. Correct? Now, let's say I switch to the "White" version of the .22 rifle and I make a harvest with it. Do I get score points or not?

Yes you do because they broke down into different achievement trees.

https://www.thehunter.com/#profile/trul ... ts/weapons

[trulight]

Basically each weapon adds to the hunter score for the first 1000 kills, they share the ballistics info for the ammo type, and the same weapon skill.

Keeping in mind that ballistics for say .223 bolt action, and a semi auto 223 are different weapons all together so will have some variances to ballistics.

[Alphamale1956]

Not rank points. There is only one rank for .22 Plinkington rifle and not three as you suggest. It says .22 Plinkington Semi-automatic Rifles not Blue marble Plinkinton, and then one rank for Blue Marble .22 and so on. All these versions are lumped under ONE .22 SA rifle category. Once I top out the .22 category, I cannot receive further points with OTHER .22 rifles. Why? Because they are all identical except for color. And this is the way it should be. So why am I getting points for both the .300 Composite AND the .300 Carbon rifles?

[DanthemanBoone]

Keeping in mind that ballistics for say .223 bolt action, and a semi auto 223 are different weapons all together so will have some variances to ballistics.

Unfortunately not correct because both versions of 223 use the same ammo. There is only one ammo and one set of ballistic coding for the ammo.
That is why in the case of the 17 hmr, the 50 cal black powder ammo and the 308 rifle V 308 pistol, there are two separate ammo types, and as each has its own specific coding those ammos perform differently in the same weapon..
With the 223, a bolt action and a piston driven semi have almost Identical performances because the gas bypass for the piston driven action is taken from 2/3 of the way down the barrel after the projectile has passed.
The kill power, damage, penetration, bullet drop etc is in no way effected by the weapon in game. It is all coded into the ammunition performance.

Which is not a true reflection of true life.

[DanthemanBoone]

[quote="Alphamale1956"]Not rank points. There is only one rank for .22 Plinkington rifle and not three as you suggest. It says .22 Plinkington Semi-automatic Rifles not Blue marble Plinkinton, and then one rank for Blue Marble .22 and so on. All these versions are lumped under ONE .22 SA rifle category. Once I top out the .22 category, I cannot receive further points with OTHER .22 rifles. Why? Because they are all identical except for color. And this is the way it should be. So why am I getting points for both the .300 Composite AND the .300 Carbon rifles?[/quote'

Quite some time back every rifle had its own skill tree. Then the changed the stystem and divided up between bolt action , semi auto and lever action ect.
During the course of changing some weapons were missed in the update and like so many other bugs the errors were not considered to be important enough to be attended to immediately. Then I think like so many things on "THE TO DO LIST" they were forgotten. None of the current staff would even be aware that it still needed to be done.

[Alphamale1956]

Keeping in mind that ballistics for say .223 bolt action, and a semi auto 223 are different weapons all together so will have some variances to ballistics.

Unfortunately not correct because both versions of 223 use the same ammo. There is only one ammo and one set of ballistic coding for the ammo.
That is why in the case of the 17 hmr, the 50 cal black powder ammo and the 308 rifle V 308 pistol, there are two separate ammo types, and as each has its own specific coding those ammos perform differently in the same weapon..
With the 223, a bolt action and a piston driven semi have almost Identical performances because the gas bypass for the piston driven action is taken from 2/3 of the way down the barrel after the projectile has passed.
The kill power, damage, penetration, bullet drop etc is in no way effected by the weapon in game. It is all coded into the ammunition performance.

Which is not a true reflection of true life.

If that is true,why do the .300 composite and .300 carbon BOTH get separate ranks. They are essentially the same rifle using the SAME ammo and thereby have the same ballistics. Therefore, they should be treated as the same weapon only with different skins. And there should be only ONE rank for that rifle. They are not different in ammo, magazines, or way of loading. Yet they still have separate rank points as if they were totally different weapons. What am I missing?

[DanthemanBoone]

see my post above. Because they stuffed up the reorganisation and now we have completely new developers along with their new weapons, and they may not be aware of or conforming to the newer system of weapon classification that was established. its just another fornication.

[OldMtnMan]

The .300 mag does not have a carbon barrel. All that's carbon fiber is the cheek piece.

From the description of the rifle.

"With a black wood stock, sculpted cheekpiece and cold hammer forged barrel"

A hammer forged barrel is made of steel. All the .300 mag guns in game use the same barrel. I never fell for the carbon barrel hype.

The Weatherby .340 mag has more power than the .300 mag ay all distances but especially at long distance. The 9.3x74R is a short range African gun. The .340 mag kills it at long range.