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Wow. 500 thingsperthings* for the .308 air rifle, when a .308 cartridge has around 3000.

That .308 air rifle delivers less energy than a .22 hornet
Not my preferred choice when hunting dangerous big game


*weird non-metric unit for energy
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Knut wrote:Wow. 500 thingsperthings* for the .308 air rifle, when a .308 cartridge has around 3000.

That .308 air rifle delivers less energy than a .22 hornet
Not my preferred choice when hunting dangerous big game


*weird non-metric unit for energy
You should watch what an Air Force Talon/Escape/Condor .22LR or .25 can do to a Varmint (Rabbit, Prairie Dog) Is astonishing, Drops a Coyote on the spot (.25) check videos on Youtube, a friends owns a Air Force Escape (.25) and the Air Force Texan it's a Beast!! (.357, .45 and .308 caliber)
http://www.airforceairguns.com/The-Texa ... -s/118.htm
I drop Opossum, Weasel and Raccoon on the spot with my friends AF Escape and my Stoeger Cougar, also Gamo whisper and big cat all from 35-60mts; Escape , Condor and Talon even drops a Rabbit, Raccoon on the spot more than 75mts.
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There is quite a difference in size and mass between opossums, weasels, raccoon and other varmints as opposed to big game such as water buffalo. Bottom line, let’s keep the little air rifles for the small game.
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BucksNBuffalo wrote:There is quite a difference in size and mass between opossums, weasels, raccoon and other varmints as opposed to big game such as water buffalo. Bottom line, let’s keep the little air rifles for the small game.
Did you read my previous post? here's again some pics and why is called BIG BORE AIR RIFLE, and Coyote it's not a soft target

2000lb bison shot with the Quackenbush LA .457 Safari gun
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http://www.bigboreairguns.com/07bisonhunt.htm
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2008/04 ... on-part-1/

Here's some more videos and NOT Varmint hunting
Warthog with a Big Bore AIR RIFLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMWYq2DMimo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFVjNUjH3s8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdvsv6cRacU

Hunting Black Bear with 45 Caliber Air Rifle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NHgAPVv7FY

I invite to search and watch GAMO air rifle what can do to Hogs
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You guys can argue energy vs penetration all you want.
But I want this for my buffalo gun.
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mapache01 wrote:Hunting Black Bear with 45 Caliber Air Rifle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NHgAPVv7FY
I found that video really disturbing for some reason. I know it's how people hunt bears with dogs and I mean no disrespect to those who do it, but for me it's just completely unbalanced to shoot a bear out of a tree like that. I just wouldn't feel like I had outwitted the bear and earned the kill. I'd feel like I was shooting cans at a fairground. Aside from the fact that shooting at something that size with an airgun, no matter how powerful it is, just seems wrong. It's clearly a good bit of kit and I definitely wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of it, but I just wouldn't pick that tool for the job, ever.
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mapache01 wrote:
BucksNBuffalo wrote:There is quite a difference in size and mass between opossums, weasels, raccoon and other varmints as opposed to big game such as water buffalo. Bottom line, let’s keep the little air rifles for the small game.
Did you read my previous post? here's again some pics and why is called BIG BORE AIR RIFLE, and Coyote it's not a soft target

2000lb bison shot with the Quackenbush LA .457 Safari gun
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http://www.bigboreairguns.com/07bisonhunt.htm
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2008/04 ... on-part-1/

Here's some more videos and NOT Varmint hunting
Warthog with a Big Bore AIR RIFLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMWYq2DMimo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFVjNUjH3s8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdvsv6cRacU

Hunting Black Bear with 45 Caliber Air Rifle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NHgAPVv7FY

I invite to search and watch GAMO air rifle what can do to Hogs
I did read your post, and the following. And I still stand by my statement. Leave the air rifles for small game.
It’s my opinion, of course. ;)
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I agree with BnB. I would never consider an air rifle for big game, even though they seem to work. Gunpowder for me.
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Well, I guess if done right, you could bring down a buffalo with throwing knives or a slingshot.
Just because it can be done doesn't make it a good idea, though.
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Ok. Someone will bring this one up eventually, but Walter D.M. Bell shot over 1000 Elephants with his 7x57 Mauser.
Goes to show caliber isn't the most important thing.
Spends all the gold and money to buy new weapons in the shape of guns.
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