"Redeyed in Redfeather Falls" by BCKidd

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The winners of this competition are as follows:

1st Place and taking home the Gold- and 3000EM$- Thoke2014. Congratulations!
2nd Place and taking home the Silver- and 2000EM$- WinchesterFTW. Congratulations!
3rd Place and taking home the Bronze- and 1000EM$- DYEUZ. Congratulations!
4th Place and taking home the Hematitte- and 500EM$ LampHunter. Congratulations!

Thank you to all for playing. Again, special thanks to UHC staff and the generous sponsor's whom put up the Bonus Prizes. ;) See you all in Hirsch in May. Respectfully.
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BCKidd wrote: I have posted this here to inform and to get feedback from each of you- using this thread. It will also be posted with the ROE in July. Thanks.
Yo My Man - OK, looking for feedback so I will indulge you - IMHO, and as a competitor, I would not be in favor of this in any way and here is why - Let's say by some miracle of chance in your next comp I was able to actually ask for directions to where the podium is located since I haven't been there before, it would actually cheapen up and put an asterisk beside my "imaginary trophy" because I didn't beat all of the best, I only got to compete against the bench and not the starters- I know all about the bench, it's where I watch the awards ceremony from all but a couple times in all my comps and even my one win has an asterisk beside it because of how it came about but that's all history for now. In addition to that, you are kind of putting an asterisk beside the names of those who have placed and won as if there is some kind of doubt to a certain degree and that is also not really a fair position to put other players in - and I hope that comes off correctly because I mean it with all sincerity and respect.

So, in my way of looking at it, no man, I don't like the concept because it lessens the value of whomever would win - I think most, who have that competitive streak in them, would agree with this. I can tell you why I don't do better, I don't put as much time in as I need to and I make small mistakes that have huge impacts, I know this about myself and those mistakes can't always be explained by a hunt sheet because we all know there is a lot more to it than that -

I might add- that a lot of use have sought out cheaters in the past and continue to look and analyze even today. I know it's a common accusation to throw out there and there's no way to know absolutely positively 100% that there isn't something happening somewhere - but to try to control something that may not exist with this approach, I just think is a bit over the top - It's not going to have any effect of my unconditional support for you and I'll be in any and all I'm able to participate in, but for me I'm a no my brother~ I'm all about the freedom and liberty- if someone is going to play dirty then that's between them and their god because they are the ones who have to live with it, not me~ Look, we all know who we need to pay attention to and who's going to be at the top of the leaderboard - It's part of the game man.

Give you a good example, I used to like the regular comp of long shot on goose - YOu know who was always there? the long shot specialists like Ghostwind - I finished second and third to him and another regular winner a couple times, Those 2nd and 3rds are some of my most memorable trophies because of who I had to compete against - To put the latest winners on a bus in the nest comp reduces the value of the spirit of the competition for me- Soa again, you were open for feedback and this is mine.
Other than that, Grats on another super comp and gracious hospitality and generosity. I had a lot of fun and it was a lot easier than the last and I enjoyed having a reason to visit one of the greatest reserves in the game in RFF.
Lastly, it was quite fulfilling to whip your ass so I had a win of my own :P ~ Cheerio~~
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First: Congratulations to the winners, and thanks BCKidd and everyone who make this competitions possible, as usual i had a great time in the competition.

Second: Feedback, i agree with Radamus, sure must be hard to manage the cheating accusations and all what is related, but what makes a competition really though is to try beat the(honest) guys who really play to be the elite of the competitions. When i see a known name in a regular competition where i also have a score i make double effort to beat him/her, just for the joy of see my name above in the end of the competition.

However i wont deny the selfish side in me see this change as a way to get more chances at a prize, i am the type of competitor that sometimes get into top 10 or even near podium, but in the other side, the competitor in me would feel really cheap if i get lets say a 6th place, and yet get a trophy and some ems because 2 top guys were also in the podium in the previous competition, i would not feel worthy, nor i would feel as a winner, and i bet they wont feel good if they got the place in the LB fair and square, i prefer go all out against people doing the same, even if i dont get a podium. Still i will accept the RoE than the hosts think are better for the correct development of the future competitions and i will thank for the chance to enjoy a new challenge. ;)

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Radamus wrote:
BCKidd wrote: I have posted this here to inform and to get feedback from each of you- using this thread. It will also be posted with the ROE in July. Thanks.
Yo My Man - OK, looking for feedback so I will indulge you - IMHO, and as a competitor, I would not be in favor of this in any way and here is why - Let's say by some miracle of chance in your next comp I was able to actually ask for directions to where the podium is located since I haven't been there before, it would actually cheapen up and put an asterisk beside my "imaginary trophy" because I didn't beat all of the best, I only got to compete against the bench and not the starters- I know all about the bench, it's where I watch the awards ceremony from all but a couple times in all my comps and even my one win has an asterisk beside it because of how it came about but that's all history for now. In addition to that, you are kind of putting an asterisk beside the names of those who have placed and won as if there is some kind of doubt to a certain degree and that is also not really a fair position to put other players in - and I hope that comes off correctly because I mean it with all sincerity and respect.

So, in my way of looking at it, no man, I don't like the concept because it lessens the value of whomever would win - I think most, who have that competitive streak in them, would agree with this. I can tell you why I don't do better, I don't put as much time in as I need to and I make small mistakes that have huge impacts, I know this about myself and those mistakes can't always be explained by a hunt sheet because we all know there is a lot more to it than that -

I might add- that a lot of use have sought out cheaters in the past and continue to look and analyze even today. I know it's a common accusation to throw out there and there's no way to know absolutely positively 100% that there isn't something happening somewhere - but to try to control something that may not exist with this approach, I just think is a bit over the top - It's not going to have any effect of my unconditional support for you and I'll be in any and all I'm able to participate in, but for me I'm a no my brother~ I'm all about the freedom and liberty- if someone is going to play dirty then that's between them and their god because they are the ones who have to live with it, not me~ Look, we all know who we need to pay attention to and who's going to be at the top of the leaderboard - It's part of the game man.

To put the latest winners on a bus in the nest comp reduces the value of the spirit of the competition for me- Soa again, you were open for feedback and this is mine.
Other than that, Grats on another super comp and gracious hospitality and generosity. I had a lot of fun and it was a lot easier than the last and I enjoyed having a reason to visit one of the greatest reserves in the game in RFF.
Lastly, it was quite fulfilling to whip your ass so I had a win of my own :P ~ Cheerio~~
VonStratos wrote:First: Congratulations to the winners, and thanks BCKidd and everyone who make this competitions possible, as usual i had a great time in the competition.

Second: Feedback, i agree with Radamus, sure must be hard to manage the cheating accusations and all what is related, but what makes a competition really though is to try beat the(honest) guys who really play to be the elite of the competitions. When i see a known name in a regular competition where i also have a score i make double effort to beat him/her, just for the joy of see my name above in the end of the competition.

However i wont deny the selfish side in me see this change as a way to get more chances at a prize, i am the type of competitor that sometimes get into top 10 or even near podium, but in the other side, the competitor in me would feel really cheap if i get lets say a 6th place, and yet get a trophy and some ems because 2 top guys were also in the podium in the previous competition, i would not feel worthy, nor i would feel as a winner, and i bet they wont feel good if they got the place in the LB fair and square, i prefer go all out against people doing the same, even if i dont get a podium. Still i will accept the RoE than the hosts think are better for the correct development of the future competitions and i will thank for the chance to enjoy a new challenge. ;)
I have to admit, after reading this and Von's words, as well as a PM or two. Points made by all replies are very valid- I do see now how this would actually defeat the purpose of competing. When I play in these things, I strive to beat the top contenders, even if they are always there, that is why we compete. To penalize top contenders for winning, really doesn't make any sense at all, and in all actuality lessens the fun. As always everyone's feedback is equally appreciated. But when points such as above and PM's on the subject can be made so clearly; we can certainly Scratch out #1 it will not be applied). That still leaves feedback for 2)... ;) Respectfully.

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My feedback for #2 , projected changes of the ROE for future comps .

It doesn't affect me as much as #1 would have .That being said , it will limit my freedom of play .
This was my first top 4 in 4 comps btw . :lol:

Ok, let's see what that rule would do :
- If i want to go in a MP with friends for whatever reasons ( helping out on missions , for fun , etc ) in that said reserve , based on that new rule , i can't .
- If i want to go to work ( relocate/place equipment , or else ) based on that new rule, i can't no more .I was able before , because of SP needed only for the comps .
- If i want to join a TH comp , in MP , in same reserve ,based on that new rule , i can't . ( All the TH comps , that i can do in MP , i do . Why ? Because the game still runs , if i need to go for few minutes or if it's slow and i want to check out the forum or other stuff . )
- I will be completely restraint , from hunting in that reserve , until i'm either done with my attempts or the comp is over .
- It will prevent me from participating in a special event ( xmass , Easter , Valentine, Halloween , etc ) that could be in same reserve , at same time .


Reasons for the changes :
To prevents competitors from having to worry about being DQ’d, because of short hunts .
It is the responsibility of the participants , imho,to be aware of the 30mins rule and to follow it religiously . If not ,he needs to deal with the possible consequences .
The ROE have been following this series and even comps before that . So all should know by now , what the consequences are if they do not follow them .
Serious / careful players have come to accept that rule pretty much now and i don't see many players having a hard time following it, these past couple comps .

Maybe a slight modification of the 30mins rule : All hunts , in the said reserve must be 30mins or more even in MP , BUT, the ones in MP would not count as an attempt . So , one wants to go in MP in that reserve , well , make it 30mins or more and you'll be fine .


In the end , it's not a rule that i would have a hard time adjusting myself to , but still would be annoying to have this limitation in a way .
The game is already limiting us enough with all kind of issues and stuff , without adding some more .

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Thank you BCKidd for another great comp. :)
Pretty hard i would say and i really struggled in every attempt for quite a few hours in order to have a chance to win. Luckily i got fourth place and I'm happy about it. :)
I want and i try to participate in all of your comps BCKidd and every time my goal is to finish in top ten. Sometimes i get lucky enough to finish in top four and that gives me a great pleasure because of the fierce competition with all these top players participating.
I have to agree with Len and Von as far as #1 rule is concerned. I know that cheaters are hard to get but although your solution gives a chance to more competitors to get in top four, it could ruin competing and value of winning as well.
Congratulations to the rest top three winners of the comp and of the half time bonus prizes. Awesome scores up there guys. Well done. Well deserved.
Congratulations to all the competitors and to my good friend Len.
DYEUZ thanks for the bonus prizes and again congrats for getting third place man. Great job.
Also thanks to the half time bonus prizes donor and of course to Tod and the rest UHC staff for their support.
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Thank you BC for putting on this competition, and congratulations to the prize winners!
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Thanks to BCKidd for another phenomenal and disputed competition, and many thanks to the UHC team for the nickname problem, I usually take the maximum I can of these competitions, to study hunting routes and etc., RRF I dare to say that I already knew every stone and piece of land, however, all hunts in this game are unique.
In the end , it's not a rule that i would have a hard time adjusting myself to , but still would be annoying to have this limitation in a way .
The game is already limiting us enough with all kind of issues and stuff , without adding some more .
I agree with DYEUZ, Regarding this issue of DQ’s, I personally think the players have a great responsibility, to read and understand the ROE, I even think people are more careless sometimes than they do not understand the rules. I personally would not change anything in the rules, but I will respect any changes imposed by BC, the competitions are going very well so far, they are the best of UHC for me, I do not think it will change because of one rule or another.

Once again, thank you all, and have a good week!

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Thank you for putting on these comps and grats to the winners!
As for your changes I really don't like that idea at all.Even though I have never won "yet",I would still rather have everyone compete even if they have won in previous ones.I would still rather have them there and would feel a lot better in winning and beating some of those top competetitors would go a lot further in my mind.thats just my opinion.

As for #2 I fully agree with what DYEUZ has said in his comment.
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Rare color bonus results
Top 10 participants have been checked for a rare color animals in their final score. None were found unfortunately .
Better luck next time . Look for them in Hirschfelden .
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