Check out my new video... I shoot some foxes with it. Tried it on arctic foxes as well... chest shot those and they just run off. I'm not so keen on it for foxes. But I will keep trying!Alphamale1956 wrote:More or Less power than .22LR? I mean killing power (internal damage) since there's no write-up on it yet. If it has less killing power than the .22LR, then why is it allowed for foxes and the .22LR is not?
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What about head shots? Penetration? I know the .17 HMR is way more ballistic than the JHP .22LR but will the higher velocity make headshots more preferred?TreeKiwi wrote:Check out my new video... I shoot some foxes with it. Tried it on arctic foxes as well... chest shot those and they just run off. I'm not so keen on it for foxes. But I will keep trying!Alphamale1956 wrote:More or Less power than .22LR? I mean killing power (internal damage) since there's no write-up on it yet. If it has less killing power than the .22LR, then why is it allowed for foxes and the .22LR is not?
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Yeah, worth it or not? Would be fun to hear.
Why isn't there a thread about this one in the "Store Item Reviews"?
Why isn't there a thread about this one in the "Store Item Reviews"?
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Because David, (Caledonianblues), is traveling and those are his threads....Generalkommendant wrote:Yeah, worth it or not? Would be fun to hear.
Why isn't there a thread about this one in the "Store Item Reviews"?
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I also don't understand why it is .17 is allowed for foxes and the .22 not, but whatever. I shot a few foxes with it up to around 70m and they all ran no matter where I placed the shot and ran and ran.... so if you want to up your tracking skills I recommend the .17, if you however want to harvest the animal in under 30 mins I would use (as it is the best for foxes in my opinion) the good old .223 semi auto or the .243 bolt action. Now a .243 lever action type of thing would be fun..... the .30-30 is the greatest waste of space in the game.
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I bought it because it seemed a good thing to have a rifle with which you could shoot both rabbits and foxes, but I was disappointed I found it ineffective for the red foxes (two affected and two escaped) we hope to get better for foxes Arctic
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OK. Well, from what I can sense in this thread it's not going into my inventory. For now at least.Fletchette wrote:Because David, (Caledonianblues), is traveling and those are his threads....Generalkommendant wrote:Why isn't there a thread about this one in the "Store Item Reviews"?
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Every fox I have shot with it never dies as quickly as I would expect. For birds and rabbits not so bad. Forget about using it on foxes tho', for now at least, maybe they (EW) will increase its performance over time. 'Till then- I'll keep using it and improve the skills for it. Peace.
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BCKidd wrote:Every fox I have shot with it never dies as quickly as I would expect. For birds and rabbits not so bad. Forget about using it on foxes tho', for now at least, maybe they (EW) will increase its performance over time. 'Till then- I'll keep using it and improve the skills for it. Peace.
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I echo this. Its a fun gun but not recommended for foxes over about 25m. It needs a a few more grains of gun powder put in the cases
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In real life the .17 HMR bullet is a lighter and faster bullet that creates more hydrostatic shock (transfer of kinetic energy into substances containing fluid like organs) to the body which translates to more damage caused by internal bleeding. A .22 LR is roughly half the velocity and energy and unless it hits an artery or penetrates to the heart, it will cause little to no internal bleeding thus less damage. The .17 HMR is used mostly for varmant and vermin hunting because of its damage capability. In general you would want to use the .22 LR over the .17 HMR for small game hunting, like rabbit and squirrel, because you would damage to much of the meat using the .17 HMR. Although a marksman's well placed .22 LR round at the proper distance will kill a fox, for the average hunter chances are fox will survive the initial hit and probably die a slow painful death a day or days later which makes the .22 LR on foxes unethical.Schlachtwolf wrote:I also don't understand why it is .17 is allowed for foxes and the .22 not, but whatever. I shot a few foxes with it up to around 70m and they all ran no matter where I placed the shot and ran and ran.... so if you want to up your tracking skills I recommend the .17, if you however want to harvest the animal in under 30 mins I would use (as it is the best for foxes in my opinion) the good old .223 semi auto or the .243 bolt action. Now a .243 lever action type of thing would be fun..... the .30-30 is the greatest waste of space in the game.
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