Mrmr123 wrote:Let me try to explain to you some of the advantages of MP VS SP comps, i will use WHI and ELK as an examples, from My experience there is at least 1 good session out of 3, and by good i mean it had high score animals but not necessarily a leaderbaord one, you can feel this with yote hunting for example, and usually a 10 sessions is more than enough to find a good big yote if not several to compete with them!
Now lets just assume there is a max of 20 bulls elk in WHI, for me to find all of them in SP i will need like 4-8 hours RLT, but a MP session with 8 people can find them all in 30 minutes to 1 hour, so while RNG is the same for SP session and MP session, the ability to kill or find all specific animal in very short time makes it clear that if we both hit a jackpot session, in SP i am limited to spotting 4-10 bulls only ( doing normal session of 1-2 hours ) so my chances to find the big boy in that big jackpot session is not the same for MP people as they will ALWAYS find him in that same big jackpot session. so they have the ability to clear out several jackpot sessions in short time but me alone cant do the same.
Hope this makes some sense when it comes to RNG, thats why SP vs SP is okay and MP vs MP is okay but not SP vs MP.
Also some other stuff that comes to mind is MP environment some times its buggy and in some games you can just run all around and not spook any animals and get too close to touch them and kill them but this never happen to all animals in SP mode as far as i know.
So you proved it takes 8 people less time to find potential spawns(which i already pointed out in the OP). Now how long does it take those 8 people to find trophy animals for each player in that group? or are you in some perfect group where they all help you, and you will be the only person ever winning anything?
It does not take 4-8 hours to hunt elk on WHI in SP, you don't have to shoot ever bull on the map, an experienced player can eliminate most animals by tracking alone, even with elk. So for me in SP it would take about 2-3 hours per hunt to go through the bull elks on WHI I want to shoot or spot at least, and elk is probably the worst animal in the game to make use of tracking skills. With coyotes I can clear WHI alone in less than 2 hours, both islands.
So if its taking you 30 mins to an hour to find a good animal for each player by your example, Each member in your group might get 1 every 4-8 hours, I will get one every 6-9 hours. Hardly a huge advantage...
With species that are more tracking friendly that tiny advantage gets much smaller and becomes a disadvantage because i get the full use out of all 10 my attempts, I dont share the spawns with 8 other people.
Now look at my example. Lets use your same scenaroi on EU rabbit as an example I can find most of the rabbits on BRR in about a 90min hunt. And i dont have to share them with anyone, so I can efficiently find 500+ animals in good time. From 500+ Eu rabbits i will shoot probably 6-8 that are potentially winning size. Your 8man group wont have a chance to compete efficiently in EU rabbit comp because time is much less of a factor and all your group will accomplish reducing the number of animals you get by a factor of your group size. You will shoot maybe 1, good luck placing on EU rabbit comps with those chances
The same holds for all species other than waterfowl. If animals are more "trackable" it slightly favors SP, if they have less relation between trophy/weight it will slightly favor MP. but its by NO means a huge advantage to either. Now you can go further and look at which animals fit that mold. Reindeer/Elk/Moose are pretty much the only 3 species where tracking provides you with almost no info. All the other deer species have a decent relation between weight and trophy size.
MP on trophy competitions will indeed impact all players but not nearly as extreme as you make it out to be, if anything it will promote larger MP groups for Reindeer moose elk bison, and smaller or SP for the weight based scoring animals. It will also vary based on the size of the reserve, Muledeer on TgT might be better with a 4+ group where mule on loggers SP or 2 people at most is needed.
Like everyone else I also want to win, I guess the big difference is I will find the best way to win with what is in my control, rather than care about what everyone else is doing.
Having MP comps is GOOD for the game, Its highly requested and competition between players is a good thing. No one likes winning 10 player pool grind competitions, they only do it for the easy em$ not because its fun, or they want to. The way competitions are now is not what they were designed to be.
PS none of my examples include people exploiting attempts with MP, we ALL know its a problem that needs solving before that can even consider MP competitions.